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$$ PECK SALES $$ I'M RICH!!!!!

Posted by Emrox - April 17th, 2016


A week ago Bob and I put out Peck! Have you seen it yet? Go see it.

Because I am now a professional businessman and money-guy we've been selling the source file online for 2 bucks american. It comes with a recording of Bob and me breaking everything down shot for shot, so if you're into that sort of thing maybe buy it!

For some reason a lot of people don't like to talk about how much money they make. What's that about? You hiding something? I am not a hider or liar so here's exactly how much we've sold in the week Peck's been up:

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So far we've gotten something like 9200 views between newgrounds and youtube, so about 1 in 550 people who watched the movie bought the source file. Now that might sound pretty shitty, but that's $3.31 for every thousand views, which really isn't too far from a normal ad-based CPM. If you're double dipping with ads AND bonus content (which I am,) you're almost doubling your income.

Now that isn't a totally honest statistic because the first people who see your movie are already your fans, and they're a lot more likely to buy shit (actually three of those payments are friends and family), but I don't have a big following so I'm assuming at least some of these buyers hadn't seen any of my work prior. And I only recognize a couple of the names (that's right, I have your names), so I don't think I'm being patronized.

So obviously I'm not going to make a killing off of 9000 views, but if you're one of these guys who gets 100k-10m views a video, that could be some serious $$$$ ka-ching!!!! And even though it's harder now than ever to break into the big leagues, I still have faith that if you just make something good enough you'll go viral. A prank time just recently got half a million views off a prior following of I think under 10,000 people, so it can still be done. Don't know if I'll ever get there, but I haven't lost faith just yet.

Will I ever do this again? Maybe! But there are a couple of kinks I'd like to work out:

  • Paypal takes a huge cut. I think it's 33 cents off every purchase, which if you're selling a product for a dollar is 1/3rd of the profits. Literally the only reason it's 2$ is because that's three times as much money under paypal's dumb rules
  • We originally wanted to do minimum 1$ name your price. The hosting guys (Sendowl) have a "name your price" option and I ticked it on the form, but I think paypal fucks it up and you can only ever pay the two dollars even if you wanted to pay more
  • Paying with debit/credit cards is weird sometimes and doesn't always work. Once again probably paypal's fault. I wish there was an alternative but almost everyone uses paypal for this stuff so we might be taking a bigger hit by using something else

If you want to get around these paypal scamsters you can send the money directly to elfman_rox@yahoo.com and I'll send you the code directly. Then I'll get more at no extra cost to you (you'll have to wait for me to send the file, though.)

The one other thing is that if you're regularly putting out these bonus things for a few dollars each, people will be able to go back and buy the old ones, too. I don't think it's too unreasonable for someone to "discover" you and then buy every bundle at once. PLUS it was only like two extra hours of work to put the deal together, so there's really no reason this couldn't be a good chunk of your income as a webtoons guy.

So try it! (and buy it!) and watch peck!

For those of you who bought the Peck package, what'd you think? Would you buy another one? Would you pay more if you could?

Thanks,

Peck


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I haven't given bob any of the money

Neat

Congrats on the sales! Will you finally be able to take that trip you've been dreaming of?

Don't spend it all in one place guys.
Seriously though it's a pretty neat idea

Nice read.

I think Newgrounds could benefit from something like allowing people to purchase the source files for a price if an author uploads them.

I think you could definitely sell more if you showcased a preview of what you have to offer and upped on the salespitch.

I have learned a lot just by watching other peoples videos frame for frame. So getting into the source file would honestly be a great benefit for people who have those kinds of interests. It's not like 2 bucks is a huge risk, so that's not the dealbreaker. Your safest bet is to take away any doubt and stress it's worth to potential buyers.

I haven't bought it, but I would gladly pay for that if I knew a little more about what i could be expecting. I could even see myself buying this type of stuff regularly and the bundling would be a good idea if you decided to do this more often.

I think in the future instead of linking right to the paypal page I should have my own page that tells you what you're buying. Maybe then I could implement the name your price thing, too, since it wouldn't be going straight to the paypal form, which I have no control over.

It comes with the flash file for peck and what's pretty much a video-recorded skype call of me and bob talking about the cartoon. Maybe next time I'll have a preview video or something, but I don't want to get too heavy into the sales pitch stuff - I'd hate to come off like a "buy my t-shirts" guy. I'm kinda hoping the people who want it will see the value in buying it without me having to push it on them, but I guess some people don't know what to expect so that would probably be for the better.

Well I bought it but I'm straight up patronizing you. The material in the package is really cool and I think it's so great to offer it, but I'm a sorta standard lunkhead and to be honest I probably won't ever even properly look at most of it. That being said, if it were up to five dollars I would have still bought it. Two dollars to support however is an undeniably easy choice. The only thing I think would be a cool addition to the digital package would be a wallpaper. That's all I got.

When it comes to stuff I usually buy to support the creator, me personally? Mostly T-Shirts. Doesn't even need to be an amazing design or anything. A simple logo is often plenty enough for me. Not saying this as a suggestion per se, just feedback for what I find I do as a pretty basic consumer.

Amazing work on Peck, thanks so much for all you guys put into it!

That's a pretty great idea! I know less people nowadays see the value in downloading or having an offline version of a video but it's a great thing to have if say for example you wanted to watch it on the go on a phone or laptop without internet connection. I think i'il definitely give this a buy, Peck made me laugh harder than anything had in a long time! Hope it becomes a huge hit.

To clarify - this isn't a video download of peck, you're getting the actual .FLA file to pull apart and examine in flash. I guess it should actually come with the video, though! I'll probably update that.
Thanks for the kind words!

Did you give Bob the money

I told you no!!!!

I will.

Don't. No bucks for bob.

I'll take that in Peck Dollars to go

If I find out Bob got a cent of my h. e. $ I'm gonna have to unsub.

dig that you're trying to find ways around ad money bullshit. selling something is definitely a solid route to go, and i like that what your selling is something that's actually relevant to the project/other creators instead of coffee mugs with a quote.

i know this was just a test, but i feel like you could definitely charge more. 10 bucks would be a pretty reasonable price that would also allow you to make bundles later on for like half price or something. the biggest hurdle is getting people to be willing to type in their credit card at all, once they've done that the difference between 2 and 10 bucks isn't anything. seems like you're still on the iffy side of charging people money, so maybe you could justify that charge to yourself if you included more process stuff? pre-pro sketches/boards/all that junk might add more value without extra work on your part.

Will the fla still be available in a week when i get paid? And what version is it. Great toon anyway guys

CC 2015, but it's backwards compatible to at least cs6. Possibly works on earlier versions, but I know for certain it doesn't open in cs3. I can try and dig up more info on that if you want. Or you could just buy it and I'll refund you the money if it doesn't work.

It'll be up for two months at least. At that point I'll be able to judge if it's worth keeping up

Wow, thanks for this detailed information, that's exactly what I was looking for

Bought myself a little Peck.zip file, I am extremely proud.