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aw no you're stepping on the punchline
I'm not saying you're trying to displace the blame, I'm saying there are plenty of super popular animators that are pretty famous and haven't followed the trend you're refering to.
Firth,
Marc M
Phillips
Happy Harry
just to name a few
Newgrounds is the same way, every time I come here I see the front page covered in parodies.
I wouldn't say everyone who does parodies or satires is sacrificing their artistic integrity, and I know you didn't say that directly, but I thought I'd throw that out there. If someone has just as much passion to make a video about Pokemon as someone who wants to make a serious short film, I don't see a problem in that. I do, however, see a problem with people making videos about things they don't care about just to get views. Even then though, everyone needs that initial jump start. Even admirable artists like Harry have done things using hot topics, but that doesn't make him a lesser artist for doing it.
A lot of people I've talked to have expressed doing parodies to get a larger audience, and then when they have them, making their own stuff that they really want to make. Like Mindchamber said, there are a lot of well received original pieces too. The Reward went viral, and that's totally original. It just depends on how likable or funny something is. There are countless examples of success stories from people who are original animators or live action video makers, you just need to look in the right places for them.
Like I said, there are people who do just make things purely to get views, and sacrifice their artistic integrity for a few extra dollars. Those people should be pointed out, and, more importantly, differentiated and separate from the people who do parodies or satires that actually care about what they're making, and really want to make a video about Pokemon or Minecraft. Putting those two together is dangerous, and I do think the people who care should be grouped together, and the people who don't should. People who care about a Minecraft parody should be put in the same category as the person who cares about his serious or sad short film.
Hopefully I wasn't too redundant , but I thought I'd give my two cents.
Good luck and keep at it dude. Your stuff has improved tremendously.
There's no use being pretty and original if you're not actually connecting with people. People rarely want to show their friends something because it's well animated alone.
Video game parodies etc are just one thing that happens to connect with a lot of people at the moment. You've got to be creative to find something else that connects that well and widely.
Hmm now that's something I hadn't considered. I guess the question, then, is how to relate to your audience without pulling something trite.
You forgot tits. Tits will also get you subs.
You know what?
RWappin is right. If something is boo-fucking-awesome, it will still get the attention it needs.
And who the hell cares if it doesn't. You still know that there's one random user who has stumbled upon your work and liked you, your cat who meows every time you randomly flail at your computer trying to do something good, your left shoe who keeps your feet warm and likes your work.
Continuing on your response to Ockeroid about how to make people relate to the video.
You can even do some daily life situations everyone at least once had to live through and just twist those. Look at russian series School 13 which was popular on Newgrounds and is a big hit on Russian YT
/watch?v=JGRAtRzGWlw
Or you could check anime (yea i know how, most are ghay) Nichijou - it's also about real life situations with crazy twist.
I guess your vending machine could work if the video wasn't just about that.
Mass appeal is overrated. As Alan Moore once said, "Fame will destroy you." But I understand where you're coming from. You just have to keep at it. Love the new toon, by the way.
I mean, they're different kinds of parodies. They're parodies that take no effort and just slap together two random popular things like getting high and Mario...and then those ones that get creative with it and kinda exaggerate a situation or show something unexpected and interesting.
Some of it take much effort to think of because a lot of times, just something inherently funny in the game that just becomes an easier choice when block sets in.
..and about originality, I think anything by itself is original. Every cartoon is a derivative of something they experienced or saw. Practically all comedy is just parody of a game, or idea, or life. As long as creative, I think okay.
It does get tiring though to see the same stuff over and over again: Pokemon, Mario, Zelda, Skyrim, ones have just been overdone and milked everything they can out of it. I would rather see parodies on other stuff.
Besides, getting a lot of views for parodies be that big of a surprise. People are already searching for these topics and they stumble across your cartoon. What the hell do you search for when looking for an original cartoon? If going to make a cartoon, you do it for it because you want to do it, parody or not.
not an artist get a tablet soon enough, so I thought share my thoughts.
The only real difference is that the Newgrounds judgement system means everything gets at least a little bit of traffic, and from there anything that's good will get a good score and a daily award and so on. The 'points' system, and being able to 'blam' shit and get it deleted, means that people have a reason to watch a video other than because they think they'll like it. And that's enough to get the ball rolling.
On Youtube, nobody is gonna click it in the first place unless they think they'll like it. And the only things you have to lure people in are a name and a thumbnail. The reason parodies work well in this system is because the viewer already knows what the subject matter is. They can at least guess that it'll make a humorous observation about a thing they like and are familiar with.
So, you just need to make that system work for you. If you're doing something satirical, even if it isn't a parody, choose a name and a thumbnail which say "I'm making jokes about that thing you're familiar with".
For me, I never really work in satire of any sort. I just make gross cartoons about dumb shit. All I can do is try and find thumbnails that demonstrate the art style and also make people say "what the fuck's happening there?" so they click it to see the context it's in. Or something. I dunno.
Ultimately Youtube is a marketplace, and unlike Newgrounds or Vimeo, isn't gonna have staff go through and promote good stuff they find. They're not about showing off the best of creative content, because they're not about creative content. They're about ANY content. And that's fine, someone's gotta do it.
So Youtube isn't really set up in a way to help people 'get off the ground'. That's your problem, not theirs. And that seems pretty reasonable to me. It's up to you to promote your channel across other sites, try and get noticed by people with lots of subscribers so you show up in their feeds, and make content that people are gonna want to share around. I've only been using Youtube properly for about 10 months now, and I've slowly worked my way up to 30,000 without any parodies or pandering or whatever. Just be smart about it and keep at it.
Also, you're gettin reallllll good. <3
This isn't a Youtube thing, it's an everything thing. People feel the exact same way about Newgrounds, Deviantart, newspapers, publishing books, signing a record contract, who wins America's Got Talent, and posting on reddit. Garbage being popular is a global constant, I made a fat post about it last month.
Basically just continue being interested in all the stuff you're interested in, keep nerding out on cartoons, and try to get a job inbetween doing that. At some point your attitude to who has a million fans will solidify, and you'll stop finding it an interesting thing to think about.
By which I mean don't try to beat it, don't become absorbed by it or turn into a bitter old hag- just accept that it's a thing and keep on truckin.
you don't even know the half
god damn i-smel and his deep thoughts condensed into delicious bite-size pieces.
Also it was nice meeting you. youre very talented.
Likewise, friend.
LafyKid
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Emrox
you're a persistent one, I'll give you that much.