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Good read, glad you feel your college experience was/is justified. Looking forward to sifting through all these links and absorbing knowledge. Thanks for taking the time to compile all of this.

let me know if anything sticks out as being particularly helpful! I've only just grazed the surface of this stuff myself

who even are you, this was way informative

4chan also has /gd/ for any people who are more design focused .. which also has a really good font resource thread.

The Scott McCloud books are great. I only just read them myself this year and sure do wish I'd known them earlier. Love the way they are in a sequential comic style, the perfect way to learn the lesson he teaches. Plus the fact he included manga was great. What an awesome and knowledgeable guy. Also, any of the books he recommends seem to be fantastic. Currently going through Manwatching by Desmond Morris and I have learnt SO MUCH from that one book, it's unreal. Next up is Gary Faigins book on facial expressions, which is where Scott based his six rules of facial expressions on.

Yeah great resources here. Any newbies reading, take notes! These are all excellent top-tier learning materials. NewGrounds ftw.

I'll have to check those out! If you've got any other hidden gems let me know.

I hope Scott does another analysis book sometime! I think he says he's got another one in the works now

God bless this post

Thanks

Well this is nice. Bookmarked.
P.S. - If you like Franquin (either cartoons or his work on spirou or gaston) you'll probably like the cartoons of argentinian cartoonist Quino.

Thanks for the rec! His stuff looks pretty cool

Great post!

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what do you have to get up for tomorrow??

work

So do you still stand by that idea that one could learn the same from personal education versus a formal education? Or is the whole idea of a mentor still very important? I'm sorry if it's a bit of an ambiguous question.

uhhh I don't know! I got a lot out of college that I'm really grateful for, but it wasn't any of the stuff that people said I would get out of it, and I wonder how much of that was just luck with choosing the right school and program and meeting the right people.

I'd like to shed some insight, but it's important to know the circumstances surrounding my going to college were REALLY specific to me, and I wouldn't be surprised if this info applies to almost no one else -

Senior year of highschool I was pretty confident in my animation skills, so I didn't want to go to school for it 'cause all those guys like hotdiggedydemon and oney said it's a waste. My parents put a lot of pressure on me tho, and essentially the deal was they would help support me financially if I went to school, but otherwise I was on my own. I didn't have any steady income so I decided to study game development (which was just a hobby at that point) at the cheapest school I could find, which was Sheridan College. Thing about sheridan tho is that it's like #1 or 2 in Canada for animation stuff, so I was still in an environment of really good artists who motivated me to keep working and improve.

Being trained in something other than animation made me realize how much everything I was learning had in common, and there was a period of two years where I was thinking really deeply about all the interconnections between different art forms, which got me real creatively juiced for a while. I think it may have been one of my greatest periods of artistic growth, and that's pretty invaluable. BUT there's no way that kind of thing happens to everyone :p

I also met a lot of cool people and made some good connections, but I've also talked to guys who went to school and only met a bunch of tumblr-y weirdos, so I might have just lucked out.

Also I've learned that I have a lot harder time motivating myself to learn when I'm not being forced to. Having a guy grading you is actually pretty useful. I don't know if I got much in terms of specific mentorship, but I probably could have done a better job of seeking that out.

I also don't even know if I'd recommend our program anymore because a lot of my favorite profs left the program for one reason or another. Not saying it's gotten worse, but I don't know how it is now.

Anyway I was really fortunate and I got a lot out of college. Would I recommend it? Probably still no. You can try and game it like me, but I honestly don't recommend you gamble $60,000 like I did

That had very little to do with your actual question so oops!

I second the fuck out of #4; I went to a community college art school dealio for 10 months and have made much more connections and learned more about the tricks of the trade in general through simply joining art-driven Discord servers.

I think that was the exact answer I was looking for. Your closing statement does give me some doubts about the choices I made. College here isn't as expensive as it is over there. Lots of budget programs. But then again, it remains a gamble. Also I was never very fond of the formal education system.
This was very eye opening, thank you.

Lookin' good. Thanks, fam

We joined on the same day

Holy smokes, thanks a lot for posting this.