Yusuf 2014-04-15 13:31:00

100% agree with you. I'm pretty sure the only original animation that's gone viral and also hasn't relied on violence and/or sex is Eddsworld

MartinLarson 2014-04-15 13:35:39

Well said, although I'm feeling kind of guilty because I'm doing a Transcendence parody right now :/

Yusuf 2014-04-15 13:38:46

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1314528
To be fair to RedMinus, he only animates AniMeme, and even then he isn't the only animator.

VidGameDude 2014-04-15 13:56:33

This is pretty much like a unpaved road in africa, no matter how much people want to drive around it, They'll still plow through that bumby as fuck minefield cause its familiar path...Everyone's aware of it even if they have the brains to know it will kill them eventually, or an unsuspecting ethiopian child, take your pick.

But on the serious note you're correct, i always found this subject neglected of interviews from ACTUAL ANIMATOR'S instead we mostly get harping by these "Research" channels vloggers who preach what they say "ISN'T MY OPINION, BUT REALLY THE ARTIST'S".

As always, good to hear your input.

Yusuf 2014-04-15 14:01:26

RedMinus is o.k., but he does do a fair amount of parodies..

turtleco 2014-04-15 14:24:54

This is why I am past the internet. I now watch hilarious cartoons on the Obilix; a self aware artificial consciousness that resides in the 5th dimension that also hosts high quality wacky cartoons with download speeds of up to 10 Gb.

francisyfl 2014-04-15 14:24:55

The thing is ... who cares ? people watch whatever they wanna watch, its not up to anyone to decide.

JonBro 2014-04-15 14:47:24

and I'm sure your anti-parodies such as LETS PLAY SLENDERMAN, Twitter Tag Team, Animated Memes ep. 1, and that Steam Train video are doing an incredible job stopping people from watching parodies... as if anyone is ever going to stop making or watching them, and as if people really need to stop making or watching them.

I like you Emrox, don't get me wrong, but I don't understand why you're so bent on trying to tell people what is right or wrong for them to watch, like there's a definitive Chart of Quality somewhere in the world that shows exactly what "good" and "bad" should mean to everyone.

I'm trying to stray away from making parodies because that's what I want to do. Other people don't stop making parodies because that's what they want to do. And you make parodies of parodies in an attempt to call other parodies stupid. All of this is okay. What others enjoy doesn't have to be what you enjoy, you're not better than they are and they're not better than you are.

JonBro 2014-04-15 15:11:50

"I don't care if people watch and enjoy parodies, but I care when people make parodies because they know it's the popular thing to do."

All right, so there are people who make them because it's popular. Since you've dismissed parodies as a whole and seem to know everything, would you care to tell me exactly who those people are?

It's easy to jump to conclusions about content creators. We feel like we know everything about them. They're hack jobs. They make parodies pandering to immature lowlifes for the attention, for the views, for the money. But there are plenty who aren't hack jobs, and there are plenty who seem like hack jobs to the presumptuous, but their work is genuine and they're being falsely accused of making wackee zanee parodeez to get attention. This is why I personally don't think you're helping the cause.

Brewster 2014-04-15 15:13:16

man shut up emrox you suck

Jameserton 2014-04-15 15:24:22

There's something fun about making parodies. Its nice because it's something a large group of people can relate to. I know some people abuse parodies and make PIKACHU BUTT FART CREEPER FLAPPY OPRAH GUNDAM STYLE SHAKE just for a cash in, but I think DuDuL's The Last of Shivs is a good example of somebody just making a parody out of love for a game. He wasn't riding any flappy bird hype or anything. Not sure what point I'm trying to make, but I understand your frustration, and I commend you for making mostly original stuff.

-Retard #2

JonBro 2014-04-15 15:39:48

All right, I guess I can understand that.

yes we're still friends

Pahgawk 2014-04-15 15:41:44

I'm all for making original content and attracting an audience just from people who appreciate that as-is, but I can see why people stick with the appeal-to-the-lowest-common-denominator types of cartoons. If making animations is just a hobby, it doesn't really matter as much if you get plenty of views if you're just doing it to have fun. If you're trying to make a living off of it though, it's awfully hard to justify working harder on content that less people will see. I guess, in a way, there isn't a great outlet for that yet on the internet that would make it worthwhile. Anyway it's a really complex issue that I am no expert on but those are my two cents.

Ockeroid 2014-04-15 16:03:17

How come you don't switch to vimeo?

Sounds like it's a lot more in line with what you're wanting.

SploogeKitten 2014-04-15 16:51:18

I made an original cartoon that didn't win any medals but was featured and is now 2nd most viewed this month. There is still hope! Butttttt i am also guilty of doing parodies because that's the only way to get money and I know i sound like a shit sellout but I like animating and am willing to make sacrifices to do it. idk :/

gettfor 2014-04-15 17:53:16

I kind of see parodies as something on which to cut my proverbial animation teeth. I often don't feel I have the skill required to do justice to whatever original idea I may have, so I make a parody to practice that particular challenge and then evaluate for myself how well I did, as well as allowing others to give their own evaluations. Perhaps they're nothing more than insecurities, but I find parody to be a relaxing way of testing creative expression. I can see what you mean, alluding to the issue of motive, but if a video is well animated, or humorous, or at least doesn't cause me to feel as though I've wasted my time after watching it, then intent is not an issue and parody or not, its existence is fine by me.

Twisted4000 2014-04-15 17:55:38

It's not really parodies that are bad, it's BAD parodies that are bad... which is like 99.9% of them, so yeah, basically.

dylan 2014-04-15 21:13:15

If there's a market, market's gonna get filled.

DuckDynasty 2014-04-15 23:05:08

i can't tell if this post is serious or if it's satire when there are sentences like this in there:

"In fact, I'm gonna be the first to say DON'T watch any of these cartoons. I haven't seen most of 'em, but I have decided to judge them solely on the fact that they are parodies."

the anti-promoting is a nice idea in theory, but it wont work and animators have to make a living and start out somehow.

Grunttles 2014-04-15 23:40:26

This is extremely true, these cartoons that are poorly written and unoriginal seem to become the most popular. I wish the artistic aspect of animation and writing was taken more seriously. The parody scene is old and dead. I think people need to create content with a message or a social statement instead of just telling dick jokes. Cartoons created purely for entertainment are common, I'm not saying there bad but they are getting tired.